Diving deep into soulwork together w/Drs. Bill And Kristi Gautlierre

Fascinatingly, often when we try to change a negative behavior for the better, we find out why it’s in place...


In fact, it’s anecdotally said, “Stop your addiction, and you’ll quickly find out why you are doing it”.


This episode will help you to do just that as we explore together what’s underneath the baggage you’re carrying and offer you tips for your soul work individually and together.

I’ve been saving this episode in the E + M vault for a little while so we could explore it during pre-holidays and give you some great options for better ways to cope with stress than the same ones that bring you and your marriage and family down.

To take on this task with you, I’m joined here by Drs Bill and Kristen Gaultierre, a type 1 & 2 couple who have been psychologists and spiritual directors for over two decades.


They both show us and model on the episode just what it takes to be safer and more attuned to one another's emotional landscape and offer tangible tips to help us become more Christ-like together.


I’m thankful for not only the time they took and the tone they set but also the meaningful digging they do with us as we wander the, at times, spiritual desert in need of help and refreshment from God and one another. 


If you not only want to know what’s under your shame, anger, and anxiety but also how to treat it more thoroughly, listen to this episode right here!

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